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Can services (dlls) which have closed be re-started using Start->Run-> "svchost etc? In other words if I identify a Windows dll in %system% that I want available - for example



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Old 12-03-2008, 11:02 AM   #1
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Can services (dlls) which have closed be re-started using Start->Run->
"svchost etc? In other words if I identify a Windows dll in %system% that
I want available - for example audiosrv.dll - what is the entry line to get
it up please?
All help appreciated. Thanks
 
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:40 PM   #2
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It doesn't work that way.

If you want to stop or start a service select Start, Conrol Panel,
Administrative Tools, Services, right click on required Service and
select Properties.
http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm

http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

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mathsgames wrote:
> Can services (dlls) which have closed be re-started using Start->Run->
> "svchost etc? In other words if I identify a Windows dll in
> %system% that I want available - for example audiosrv.dll - what is
> the entry line to get it up please?
> All help appreciated. Thanks



 
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:23 PM   #3
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From: "mathsgames" <mathsgames@discussions.microsoft.com>

| Can services (dlls) which have closed be re-started using Start->Run->
| "svchost etc? In other words if I identify a Windows dll in %system% that
| I want available - for example audiosrv.dll - what is the entry line to get
| it up please?
| All help appreciated. Thanks

No.

It is a server of services and is depent on what's in the registry as well as command line
switches being loaded as a NT Service.

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Old 12-03-2008, 04:59 PM   #4
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THANK YOU Gerry and David.
I can now restart my missing services as you suggested. Brilliant.
This is all part of the debug of a killer "Generic Host Process needs to
close"
I need to bring back the missing services one by one until I find the rogue
service (dll) which is incompatible with level 9 of AOL for dial up
broadband users (me).
Many thanks again.


 
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:13 PM   #5
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You looking at the problem the wrong way! The problem is more likely to
be with AOL.

Look at the entries in Event Viewer.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.


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mathsgames wrote:
> THANK YOU Gerry and David.
> I can now restart my missing services as you suggested. Brilliant.
> This is all part of the debug of a killer "Generic Host Process needs
> to close"
> I need to bring back the missing services one by one until I find the
> rogue service (dll) which is incompatible with level 9 of AOL for
> dial up broadband users (me).
> Many thanks again.



 
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:28 PM   #6
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From: "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com>


| You looking at the problem the wrong way! The problem is more likely to
| be with AOL.

I agree. AOL crapware is very obtrusive !



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Old 12-03-2008, 05:33 PM   #7
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From: "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>

| From: "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com>


|| You looking at the problem the wrong way! The problem is more likely to
|| be with AOL.

| I agree. AOL crapware is very obtrusive !


Ooooops....
Should have been "intrusive" not obtrusive. < LOL >



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Old 12-04-2008, 07:46 AM   #8
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Thanks for your continued interest in this.
The story so far - entered elsewhere in this forum - is that AOL have many
broken arms from users but STILL insist it is not them. D'you know I'm
beginning to believe them. Because after the "Generic Host Process needs to
close" crash the Event viewer does not list a failing serivce. However
looking around I found that one of the SVCHOST commands had LOST 16 out of
it's original 26 services.
BUT - from that point on, AOL can be quickly restored and then runs like a
dream with no further failures, until next power up. That makes me
suspicious about my WinXP SP1. There is much smoke about this "Generic
Host..." around the forums and no fixes. The penalty of this workaround is
that there are casualties. One of which is that services like Windows Audio
are stopped. However this can be easily restarted using the process you
outlined earlier.
Well there it is. I was an AOL basher but now I'm not so sure. Thanks
anyway. I will follow up on ALL your suggestions.

 
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:10 AM   #9
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Why have you not updated to Windows XP SP2 or SP3?

What errors appear in Event Viewer for the last boot?

What are your anti-virus and antispyware arrangements?

What Start Up type has Windows Audio been set as? It should be
automatic.

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mathsgames wrote:
> Thanks for your continued interest in this.
> The story so far - entered elsewhere in this forum - is that AOL have
> many broken arms from users but STILL insist it is not them. D'you
> know I'm beginning to believe them. Because after the "Generic Host
> Process needs to close" crash the Event viewer does not list a
> failing serivce. However looking around I found that one of the
> SVCHOST commands had LOST 16 out of it's original 26 services.
> BUT - from that point on, AOL can be quickly restored and then runs
> like a dream with no further failures, until next power up. That
> makes me suspicious about my WinXP SP1. There is much smoke about
> this "Generic Host..." around the forums and no fixes. The penalty
> of this workaround is that there are casualties. One of which is that
> services like Windows Audio are stopped. However this can be easily
> restarted using the process you outlined earlier.
> Well there it is. I was an AOL basher but now I'm not so sure.
> Thanks anyway. I will follow up on ALL your suggestions.



 
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:09 PM   #10
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Answers to your Qs Gerrry:

1 SP1 always worked fine - and if it "ain't broke" I don't fix it. The
errors started some years after my purchase of XP, when AOL moved us all to
AOL Dial Up Broadband six months ago. There's quite a bit in various fora
about this thing but no clear fix anywhere. Naturally AOL got kicked.

2. The Event viewer from today:

Faulting application , version 0.0.0.0, faulting module unknown, version
0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00000000.
There are also a couple of files usually, in a temp dir, but nothing useful
in them.

3. Spyware - up to date McAfee virus checker and Firewall. They do find
things from time to time. No odd things happening except this one.

4. Startup type for Windows Audio is automatic.
-------------------
After the failure, one of the SVCHOST calls - the same one every time -
has reduced from 26 services to 10. It is always the same services dropped
off.
My plan is to get past the bug, when these services are down to 10 - and
restart them one at a time to see if I can get to the conflict. An important
point foir me is
that my work around keeps me going even though I'm running 16 services light.
So far I've proved that Windows Audio can be restarted without further
breakdowns.

Any more opinions will be followed up. Thanks for your interest.



 
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