PanHandler

Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other computers,
but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now I'm curious -
what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with the card inserted,
or an external USB HDD connected does windows 'expect' to 'see' the device
again on next boot, and if not present fail to boot? Inquiring mind wants to
know! :-)
TIA

Andrew E.

You might check the BIOS after the installation,like installing a new hd,the
BIOS on most machines will set the new hd as 1st boot priority,maybe its
resetting something with the card....

"PanHandler" wrote:

> Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
> updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
> remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other computers,
> but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now I'm curious -
> what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with the card inserted,
> or an external USB HDD connected does windows 'expect' to 'see' the device
> again on next boot, and if not present fail to boot? Inquiring mind wants to
> know! :-)
> TIA
>
>
>

R. McCarty

Congratulations - You almost achieved a post with nearly complete
sentences. Technically your answer is close, The BIOS settings are
likely the cause - but more of a "Boot to USB", instead of automatic
re-ordering of drives. ( Which some BIOS' do implement, and is an
aggravation ).

"Andrew E." <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in message
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> You might check the BIOS after the installation,like installing a new
> hd,the
> BIOS on most machines will set the new hd as 1st boot priority,maybe its
> resetting something with the card....
>
> "PanHandler" wrote:
>
>> Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
>> updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
>> remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other
>> computers,
>> but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now I'm
>> curious -
>> what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with the card
>> inserted,
>> or an external USB HDD connected does windows 'expect' to 'see' the
>> device
>> again on next boot, and if not present fail to boot? Inquiring mind wants
>> to
>> know! :-)
>> TIA
>>
>>
>>

PanHandler

"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Congratulations - You almost achieved a post with nearly complete
> sentences.

Hell, I hadn't even had my first coffa cuppee. Thanks for the reply!

> Technically your answer is close, The BIOS settings are
> likely the cause - but more of a "Boot to USB", instead of automatic
> re-ordering of drives. ( Which some BIOS' do implement, and is an
> aggravation ).
>
> "Andrew E." <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:C1CBACCC-6D9B-4EC3-B2D5-51E94D987C4F@microsoft.com...
>> You might check the BIOS after the installation,like installing a new
>> hd,the
>> BIOS on most machines will set the new hd as 1st boot priority,maybe its
>> resetting something with the card....
>>
>> "PanHandler" wrote:
>>
>>> Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
>>> updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
>>> remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other
>>> computers,
>>> but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now I'm
>>> curious -
>>> what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with the card
>>> inserted,
>>> or an external USB HDD connected does windows 'expect' to 'see' the
>>> device
>>> again on next boot, and if not present fail to boot? Inquiring mind
>>> wants to
>>> know! :-)
>>> TIA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Thee Chicago Wolf

>Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
>updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
>remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other computers,
>but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now I'm curious -
>what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with the card inserted,
>or an external USB HDD connected does windows 'expect' to 'see' the device
>again on next boot, and if not present fail to boot? Inquiring mind wants to
>know! :-)
>TIA

No SP3 yet? If you have an Intel-based system, have you installed the
Intel chipset software installation utility drivers yet?

- Thee Chicago Wolf

M.I.5¾

"PanHandler" <Boon@digital.net> wrote in message
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> Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
> updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
> remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other computers,
> but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now I'm
> curious - what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with the
> card inserted, or an external USB HDD connected does windows 'expect' to
> 'see' the device again on next boot, and if not present fail to boot?
> Inquiring mind wants to know! :-)


This is a known issue with Windows XP. Some installations (but not all)
will not boot if a USB (or firewire) mass storage device is connected. The
exact mechanism is not clear, but the perception is that the BIOS is trying
to boot from the USB device and sulking when it can't find a master boot
record. However, the flaw with this theory is that the problem can be made
to disappear when an older version of windows (or even a different operating
system altogether) is used.

PanHandler

"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
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> >Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
>>updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
>>remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other computers,
>>but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now I'm
>>curious -
>>what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with the card
>>inserted,
>>or an external USB HDD connected does windows 'expect' to 'see' the device
>>again on next boot, and if not present fail to boot? Inquiring mind wants
>>to
>>know! :-)
>>TIA
>
> No SP3 yet? If you have an Intel-based system, have you installed the
> Intel chipset software installation utility drivers yet?

Except for this little issue, the machine has been running perfectly for
three years with SP2. It's not because of the lack of SP3 that it's doing
this, and it's not really a problem anyway. I've jumped thru the hoops in
device manager on drivers - no change. WWBWB I guess. :-)

PanHandler

"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "PanHandler" <Boon@digital.net> wrote in message
> news:yrtZk.3237$UI2.1106@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
>> updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
>> remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other
>> computers, but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now
>> I'm curious - what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with
>> the card inserted, or an external USB HDD connected does windows 'expect'
>> to 'see' the device again on next boot, and if not present fail to boot?
>> Inquiring mind wants to know! :-)
>
>
> This is a known issue with Windows XP. Some installations (but not all)
> will not boot if a USB (or firewire) mass storage device is connected.
> The exact mechanism is not clear, but the perception is that the BIOS is
> trying to boot from the USB device and sulking when it can't find a master
> boot record. However, the flaw with this theory is that the problem can
> be made to disappear when an older version of windows (or even a different
> operating system altogether) is used.

That's my conclusion after Googling myself to death too. BTW - I've gone
thru the BIOS settings thoroughly to no avail. Guess I'll just leave well
enough alone.

M.I.5¾

"PanHandler" <Boon@digital.net> wrote in message
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>
> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:49369c5e$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>>
>> "PanHandler" <Boon@digital.net> wrote in message
>> news:yrtZk.3237$UI2.1106@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>> Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
>>> updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
>>> remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other
>>> computers, but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now
>>> I'm curious - what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with
>>> the card inserted, or an external USB HDD connected does windows
>>> 'expect' to 'see' the device again on next boot, and if not present fail
>>> to boot? Inquiring mind wants to know! :-)
>>
>>
>> This is a known issue with Windows XP. Some installations (but not all)
>> will not boot if a USB (or firewire) mass storage device is connected.
>> The exact mechanism is not clear, but the perception is that the BIOS is
>> trying to boot from the USB device and sulking when it can't find a
>> master boot record. However, the flaw with this theory is that the
>> problem can be made to disappear when an older version of windows (or
>> even a different operating system altogether) is used.
>
> That's my conclusion after Googling myself to death too. BTW - I've gone
> thru the BIOS settings thoroughly to no avail. Guess I'll just leave well
> enough alone.

The only workaround that I am aware of is to ensure that the device
concerned is not connected (or switched off) when you boot the PC. As soon
as the Windows startup screen (the one with the blue progress bar near the
bottom) appears, the device can be connected or switched on.

Jim Dell

M.I.5¾ wrote:
> "PanHandler" <Boon@digital.net> wrote in message
> news:WOBZk.4054$ba6.3783@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:49369c5e$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>>> "PanHandler" <Boon@digital.net> wrote in message
>>> news:yrtZk.3237$UI2.1106@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>> Win XP Pro, SP2, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB 'C' , & 1 TB 'D' SATA HDD's, fully
>>>> updated. Will not boot with SD card in built-in USB reader. Shut down,
>>>> remove card, normal boot. I've experienced this before on other
>>>> computers, but never worried about it as it's simple to correct, but now
>>>> I'm curious - what's the cause? Also, if the computer is shut down with
>>>> the card inserted, or an external USB HDD connected does windows
>>>> 'expect' to 'see' the device again on next boot, and if not present fail
>>>> to boot? Inquiring mind wants to know! :-)
>>>
>>> This is a known issue with Windows XP. Some installations (but not all)
>>> will not boot if a USB (or firewire) mass storage device is connected.
>>> The exact mechanism is not clear, but the perception is that the BIOS is
>>> trying to boot from the USB device and sulking when it can't find a
>>> master boot record. However, the flaw with this theory is that the
>>> problem can be made to disappear when an older version of windows (or
>>> even a different operating system altogether) is used.
>> That's my conclusion after Googling myself to death too. BTW - I've gone
>> thru the BIOS settings thoroughly to no avail. Guess I'll just leave well
>> enough alone.
>
> The only workaround that I am aware of is to ensure that the device
> concerned is not connected (or switched off) when you boot the PC. As soon
> as the Windows startup screen (the one with the blue progress bar near the
> bottom) appears, the device can be connected or switched on.
>
>
Do you have the most current version of BIOS for the PC?

Until the PC starts with the normal Windows stuff it's still in the bios.

What is the boot sequence set at in your BIOS?

Jim