John John (MVP)

You truly *are* an idiot! Dr. Mark Russinovich is a Microsoft Technical
Fellow. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/e...w/default.mspx

The list of Technical Fellows is pretty short, I don't see your name on
that list... oh wait, I see yours on another website, on the list of
most idiotic trolls to ever roam the internet!

John

db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:

> don't know why people
> place mark r. opinions
> as the expert.
>
> he was recently adopted
> into the micrsoft business
> simply for his little
> creative utilities.
>
> otherwise, microsoft
> invented the registry
> and they are the first
> source of information
> for thier windows o.s.
>

Twayne

> you can install all that
> and install this instead:
>
> http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-...c_cid=mscom_hp
>
> or use this weekly:
>
> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm
>
>
> "tapyeno" <patmahoney@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:5d5dc332-713a-481d-8ff1-8e7d60346051@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.

Umm, in addition to would be OK, but to replace them would be folly. NO
APP can or will cover all the bases. And One Care's reputation isn't
all that solid either. Personally I wouldn't even (an ddon't) bother
with it, although I tried it out.

Twayne

Twayne

> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:g9670s$qoh$2@aioe.org...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>> "tapyeno" <patmahoney@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5d5dc332-713a-481d-8ff1-8e7d60346051@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Let go of Spyware Doctor and Max registry cleaner..
>>>
>>> Install Windows Defender..
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Windows Defenseless is just that, defenseless. Next you're going to
>> be saying that the OP should use Microsoft's registry cleaner in One
>> Care?

Well, windows defender isn't that powerful, I agree. But it's reailable
and works first time every time, something you can't say about One Care.
I have had it save the day though on come client's machines and I like
what it does. As long as something can't hurt, and is designed to do
good, it's worth having.

I don't care for One Care period so in my case it's not an issue.
Max Registry Cleaner I agree with.

>>
>> Alias

I have to agree with whoever said you presume too much: You do. I
think you need to step back a bit and take a better look at the reaility
of these things and learn more about what they do. The list I use is
nowhere near the only list in existance, some are probably better too,
but for my use, they seem to support me well. I find little wrong with
other's lists of malware arsenals, in fact, and occasionally even check
out what they use/recommend. But in your case you aren't recommending:
Instead you're presenting your opinion as the only valid one and that's
clearly not the case.

Twayne



>
>
> You presume too much then..

db.·.. >

i use one care without
issues, hence the program
by microsoft for microsoft
windows is a reasonable
recommendation.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:%23UAjhMfCJHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> you can install all that
>> and install this instead:
>>
>> http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-...c_cid=mscom_hp
>>
>> or use this weekly:
>>
>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm
>>
>>
>> "tapyeno" <patmahoney@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:5d5dc332-713a-481d-8ff1-8e7d60346051@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>
> Umm, in addition to would be OK, but to replace them would be folly. NO APP can or will cover all the bases. And One Care's
> reputation isn't all that solid either. Personally I wouldn't even (an ddon't) bother with it, although I tried it out.
>
> Twayne
>

Twayne

> tapyeno wrote:
>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>
>
> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner,
> unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer unusable.

Not true, but, IF you use a registry "cleaner", you need one that is
reliable and capable of reversing its changes. I've never had to
reverse a change, but I can see it being possible. Stick with the
mainstream and you'll be OK.
The downside of good registry cleaners is that they are expected to
fix all ills and that's just not the case. Often the registry has
nothing to do with the problem's symptoms, whatever they may be.
Why some have such closed minds about them I can't fathom and they
refuse to expand on it at all. What feeble reasons they have given in
the long ago past were never relevant to the situatiosn at hand even.
In the right situation, they can be system savers. I've never seen a
registry cleaner, mainstream or not, crash a system although I'm certain
it's possible. But so can the installation of most any application;
it's all related.

Sorry, but you're wrong. But that's nothing new.

Twayne

Twayne

> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>> news:%239RLKGXCJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> tapyeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner,
>>> unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer unusable.
>>
>>
>>
>> That is a deliberate lie.
>>
>>
>
> Nope, that's the plain and simple truth. ( that is, unless you're a
> complete idiot)

And that's another lie. Parroted, but still a lie. Closed minds seek
closed minds.

Bob I

Twayne wrote:

>>db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>>news:%239RLKGXCJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl. ..
>>>
>>>
>>>>tapyeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>>>>Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these?
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner,
>>>>unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer unusable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>That is a deliberate lie.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Nope, that's the plain and simple truth. ( that is, unless you're a
>>complete idiot)
>
>
> And that's another lie. Parroted, but still a lie. Closed minds seek
> closed minds.
>

Nope, reg-cleaners in the hands of novices are a timebomb, pure and
simple. To believe otherwise, is ignorance speaking.

Alias

Bob I wrote:
>
>
> Twayne wrote:
>
>>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>>> news:%239RLKGXCJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> tapyeno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>>>>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner,
>>>>> unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer unusable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is a deliberate lie.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, that's the plain and simple truth. ( that is, unless you're a
>>> complete idiot)
>>
>>
>> And that's another lie. Parroted, but still a lie. Closed minds seek
>> closed minds.
>
> Nope, reg-cleaners in the hands of novices are a timebomb, pure and
> simple. To believe otherwise, is ignorance speaking.
>

I use Crap Cleaner's registry cleaner after an uninstall but I only nuke
those entries that are related to the program I uninstalled. I've never
had a problem from doing that.

Alias

Twayne

> Twayne wrote:
>
>>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>>> news:%239RLKGXCJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> tapyeno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also
>>>>>> have Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all
>>>>>> these? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner,
>>>>> unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer unusable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is a deliberate lie.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, that's the plain and simple truth. ( that is, unless you're a
>>> complete idiot)
>>
>>
>> And that's another lie. Parroted, but still a lie. Closed minds
>> seek closed minds.
>>
>
> Nope, reg-cleaners in the hands of novices are a timebomb, pure and
> simple. To believe otherwise, is ignorance speaking.

First, that's not even close to what you originally stated, nor is it
even as patently true as you would like it to sound. "Pure and simple"
is an interesting but meaningless phrase too, especially followed by the
ignorance statement.
It's fairly obvious you are simply parroting what happens to be
convenient for you at the moment as opposed to having researched or even
empirically working toward your own opinions. Being closed minded is
bad enough but parroting a close minded's drivel is the epitome of
ignorance, if that's really where you want to go.

You may go ahead and flame away and flop like a fish on a dry dock all
you want but that won't make you any less wrong-headed than you now are.
And I'm feeling obligated to tell you, I choose to no longer partake of
your attempted trollish posts in this thread. I've said what I have to
say and thus have no further need to communicate further with you.
Consider your lack of useful responses on the subject exposed.

Mike Hall - MVP

"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:OGNYrRfCJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> news:g9670s$qoh$2@aioe.org...
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>> "tapyeno" <patmahoney@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5d5dc332-713a-481d-8ff1-8e7d60346051@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>>>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these?
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let go of Spyware Doctor and Max registry cleaner..
>>>>
>>>> Install Windows Defender..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Windows Defenseless is just that, defenseless. Next you're going to
>>> be saying that the OP should use Microsoft's registry cleaner in One
>>> Care?
>
> Well, windows defender isn't that powerful, I agree. But it's reailable
> and works first time every time, something you can't say about One Care. I
> have had it save the day though on come client's machines and I like what
> it does. As long as something can't hurt, and is designed to do good,
> it's worth having.
>
> I don't care for One Care period so in my case it's not an issue.
> Max Registry Cleaner I agree with.
>
>>>
>>> Alias
>
> I have to agree with whoever said you presume too much: You do. I think
> you need to step back a bit and take a better look at the reaility of
> these things and learn more about what they do. The list I use is nowhere
> near the only list in existance, some are probably better too, but for my
> use, they seem to support me well. I find little wrong with other's lists
> of malware arsenals, in fact, and occasionally even check out what they
> use/recommend. But in your case you aren't recommending: Instead you're
> presenting your opinion as the only valid one and that's clearly not the
> case.
>
> Twayne
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> You presume too much then..
>
>
>


AVG, at some point, have stated that other spyware removers do not live well
with AVG, and it is recommended that AVG is run without any help from other
spyware removers..

Re the presumption, I do not rate OneCare. Do you?


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