Mike Hall - MVP

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:g966v7$qoh$1@aioe.org...
> tapyeno wrote:
>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>
> Get rid of the Doctor and the Registry Cleaner. Use Spy Bot, Search and
> Destroy, Spywareblaster and Spywareguard. You can easily search Google for
> the urls.
>
> Alias


AVG doesn't like some of that listing.. not a good idea at all..


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Bruce Chambers

tapyeno wrote:
> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.


Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner,
unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer unusable.


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db.·.. >

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:%239RLKGXCJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> tapyeno wrote:
>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>
>
> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner, unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer
> unusable.


That is a deliberate lie.


>
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> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
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>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm
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Kayman

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:23:31 -0700 (PDT), tapyeno wrote:
> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:52:41 -0600, Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner, unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer
>> unusable.

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:03:51 -0500, db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>>> That is a deliberate lie.
>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

I don't think so! It is not unusual that in Multi National
Organizations such as MSFT the Section Heads of the Commercial Department
and the Program Engineers (Operating Department), are having conflicting
opinions as they work for different goals.
The Program Engineers are the pragmatic type, they develop things, they
*know* things. They have to demonstrate high integrity in order to produce
high quality software.
The Advertising People know how to *sell and push* things. They mostly walk
on a fine line but cross it frequently for the sake of the $ almighty and
in the name of the share holders. The nature of their job prevents them to
be moral and ethical.
The goals of the Commercial Dept. are not necessarily in the best interest
for the end user.
Would MSFT recommend the use of registry cleaners if Mark Russinovich
and/or Ed Bott had a say? HELL NO!
Would MSFT recommend the use of PFW if Jesper M. Johansson and/or Steve
Riley had a say? HELL NO!
Would MSFT have included (lame) additions to their Windows Life OneCare
(AV) application if their program engineers had a say? HELL NO!

Alias

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:g9670s$qoh$2@aioe.org...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>> "tapyeno" <patmahoney@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5d5dc332-713a-481d-8ff1-8e7d60346051@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Let go of Spyware Doctor and Max registry cleaner..
>>>
>>> Install Windows Defender..
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Windows Defenseless is just that, defenseless. Next you're going to be
>> saying that the OP should use Microsoft's registry cleaner in One Care?
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> You presume too much then..
>
>

There's hope for you yet, then.

Alias

Alias

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:g966v7$qoh$1@aioe.org...
>> tapyeno wrote:
>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>>
>> Get rid of the Doctor and the Registry Cleaner. Use Spy Bot, Search
>> and Destroy, Spywareblaster and Spywareguard. You can easily search
>> Google for the urls.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> AVG doesn't like some of that listing.. not a good idea at all..
>
>

Then replace AVG with Avast.

Alias

Alias

Kayman wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:23:31 -0700 (PDT), tapyeno wrote:
>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:52:41 -0600, Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner, unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer
>>> unusable.
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:03:51 -0500, db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>>>> That is a deliberate lie.
>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm
>
> I don't think so! It is not unusual that in Multi National
> Organizations such as MSFT the Section Heads of the Commercial Department
> and the Program Engineers (Operating Department), are having conflicting
> opinions as they work for different goals.
> The Program Engineers are the pragmatic type, they develop things, they
> *know* things. They have to demonstrate high integrity in order to produce
> high quality software.
> The Advertising People know how to *sell and push* things. They mostly walk
> on a fine line but cross it frequently for the sake of the $ almighty and
> in the name of the share holders. The nature of their job prevents them to
> be moral and ethical.
> The goals of the Commercial Dept. are not necessarily in the best interest
> for the end user.
> Would MSFT recommend the use of registry cleaners if Mark Russinovich
> and/or Ed Bott had a say? HELL NO!
> Would MSFT recommend the use of PFW if Jesper M. Johansson and/or Steve
> Riley had a say? HELL NO!
> Would MSFT have included (lame) additions to their Windows Life OneCare
> (AV) application if their program engineers had a say? HELL NO!

Would Steve Ballmer say push it out and sell One Care's Registry Cleaner
even if it is a POS? Hell yes!

Alias

Bob I

db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:

>
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:%239RLKGXCJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> tapyeno wrote:
>>
>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner,
>> unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer unusable.
>
>
>
> That is a deliberate lie.
>
>

Nope, that's the plain and simple truth. ( that is, unless you're a
complete idiot)

Alias

Bob I wrote:
>
>
> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>> news:%239RLKGXCJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> tapyeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>>>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner,
>>> unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer unusable.
>>
>>
>>
>> That is a deliberate lie.
>>
>>
>
> Nope, that's the plain and simple truth. ( that is, unless you're a
> complete idiot)
>

Actually, they can come in handy after an uninstall if you use it very
selectively and only nuke what's left over from the uninstall.

Alias

db.·.. >

don't know why people
place mark r. opinions
as the expert.

he was recently adopted
into the micrsoft business
simply for his little
creative utilities.

otherwise, microsoft
invented the registry
and they are the first
source of information
for thier windows o.s.

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"Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message news:Ouh7FxaCJHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:23:31 -0700 (PDT), tapyeno wrote:
>> I have recently upgraded to full AVG Internet Security. I also have
>> Spyware Doctor and Max Registry Cleaner. Do I need all these? Thanks.
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:52:41 -0600, Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>> Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner, unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer
>>> unusable.
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:03:51 -0500, db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
>>>> That is a deliberate lie.
>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm
>
> I don't think so! It is not unusual that in Multi National
> Organizations such as MSFT the Section Heads of the Commercial Department
> and the Program Engineers (Operating Department), are having conflicting
> opinions as they work for different goals.
> The Program Engineers are the pragmatic type, they develop things, they
> *know* things. They have to demonstrate high integrity in order to produce
> high quality software.
> The Advertising People know how to *sell and push* things. They mostly walk
> on a fine line but cross it frequently for the sake of the $ almighty and
> in the name of the share holders. The nature of their job prevents them to
> be moral and ethical.
> The goals of the Commercial Dept. are not necessarily in the best interest
> for the end user.
> Would MSFT recommend the use of registry cleaners if Mark Russinovich
> and/or Ed Bott had a say? HELL NO!
> Would MSFT recommend the use of PFW if Jesper M. Johansson and/or Steve
> Riley had a say? HELL NO!
> Would MSFT have included (lame) additions to their Windows Life OneCare
> (AV) application if their program engineers had a say? HELL NO!