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zerocool 10

Basically It wont boot windows From the HDD AT ALL not reg. or in
safemode. it started a couple days a ago when i was defraging with Perfect
disk 2008 . basically i think it fuked up the boot.ini but im not sure with
limited access to the file system , im running linux off of cd right now
and i do have a bart pe xp on a cd but both cant recognize the c drive
basically .
what it does
ok when u start the pc it goes to xp loading gif and when thats done u see
a split sec of blue screen then not off ... reboot again safe now same .
what i did
ok i have one of those 1000 in 1 program disk it has the bart pe on and a
dozen use full tools , i use the hdd regenerator 1.51 and the fujitsu disk
diagnostic it said it was fine . i did run the true home image program and
it let me browse through the c and choose what to clone i didnt do anything

what i think that PD2008 mess up the boot and put there off line defrag in
the boot and now its crashing .its like the chk disc it runs a split sec
before it boots

well any and all help would be appreciated thanks zen_zeno10@hotmail.com

Malke

zerocool 10 wrote:
> Basically It wont boot windows From the HDD AT ALL not reg. or in
> safemode. it started a couple days a ago when i was defraging with Perfect
> disk 2008 . basically i think it fuked up the boot.ini but im not sure with
> limited access to the file system , im running linux off of cd right now
> and i do have a bart pe xp on a cd but both cant recognize the c drive
> basically .
> what it does
> ok when u start the pc it goes to xp loading gif and when thats done u see
> a split sec of blue screen then not off ... reboot again safe now same .
> what i did
> ok i have one of those 1000 in 1 program disk it has the bart pe on and a
> dozen use full tools , i use the hdd regenerator 1.51 and the fujitsu disk
> diagnostic it said it was fine . i did run the true home image program and
> it let me browse through the c and choose what to clone i didnt do anything
>
> what i think that PD2008 mess up the boot and put there off line defrag in
> the boot and now its crashing .its like the chk disc it runs a split sec
> before it boots

It doesn't sound like an incorrect or missing boot.ini is the issue. If
it were, you wouldn't get a blue screen - just a different error
message. It sounds like the partition table got hosed. If you know how
to fix the partition table manually, you could try that. Personally I'd
just back up whatever data I needed using the Bart's or Linux Live
distro and then do a clean install of Windows. After you get things
straightened out, consider that perhaps tinkering less would be A Good
Thing. Or buy an external hard drive and an imaging program so you can
image your system and tinker to your heart's content, secure in the
knowledge that you can restore your machine from the image in minutes.

http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...alling_Windows -
What you will need on-hand


Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
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MS-MVP

John John

At the F8 screen disable the option to "Automatically restart on system
failure...", that will cause the computer to halt on the BSOD and you
may be able to find the cause of the problem with the BSOD information.

John

zerocool 10 wrote:

> Basically It wont boot windows From the HDD AT ALL not reg. or in
> safemode. it started a couple days a ago when i was defraging with Perfect
> disk 2008 . basically i think it fuked up the boot.ini but im not sure with
> limited access to the file system , im running linux off of cd right now
> and i do have a bart pe xp on a cd but both cant recognize the c drive
> basically .
> what it does
> ok when u start the pc it goes to xp loading gif and when thats done u see
> a split sec of blue screen then not off ... reboot again safe now same .
> what i did
> ok i have one of those 1000 in 1 program disk it has the bart pe on and a
> dozen use full tools , i use the hdd regenerator 1.51 and the fujitsu disk
> diagnostic it said it was fine . i did run the true home image program and
> it let me browse through the c and choose what to clone i didnt do anything
>
> what i think that PD2008 mess up the boot and put there off line defrag in
> the boot and now its crashing .its like the chk disc it runs a split sec
> before it boots
>
> well any and all help would be appreciated thanks zen_zeno10@hotmail.com

zerocool 10

"Malke" wrote:

> zerocool 10 wrote:
> > Basically It wont boot windows From the HDD AT ALL not reg. or in
> > safemode. it started a couple days a ago when i was defraging with Perfect
> > disk 2008 . basically i think it fuked up the boot.ini but im not sure with
> > limited access to the file system , im running linux off of cd right now
> > and i do have a bart pe xp on a cd but both cant recognize the c drive
> > basically .
> > what it does
> > ok when u start the pc it goes to xp loading gif and when thats done u see
> > a split sec of blue screen then not off ... reboot again safe now same .
> > what i did
> > ok i have one of those 1000 in 1 program disk it has the bart pe on and a
> > dozen use full tools , i use the hdd regenerator 1.51 and the fujitsu disk
> > diagnostic it said it was fine . i did run the true home image program and
> > it let me browse through the c and choose what to clone i didnt do anything
> >
> > what i think that PD2008 mess up the boot and put there off line defrag in
> > the boot and now its crashing .its like the chk disc it runs a split sec
> > before it boots
>
> It doesn't sound like an incorrect or missing boot.ini is the issue. If
> it were, you wouldn't get a blue screen - just a different error
> message. It sounds like the partition table got hosed. If you know how
> to fix the partition table manually, you could try that. Personally I'd
> just back up whatever data I needed using the Bart's or Linux Live
> distro and then do a clean install of Windows. After you get things
> straightened out, consider that perhaps tinkering less would be A Good
> Thing. Or buy an external hard drive and an imaging program so you can
> image your system and tinker to your heart's content, secure in the
> knowledge that you can restore your machine from the image in minutes.
>
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...alling_Windows -
> What you will need on-hand
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP
>


Thanks alot , i really thought there was an easier way to fix besides the
rinse and repeat ' like i said the MBR and the ntldr are both mess up ,
is there no quick fix to just add a new boot.ini .

i use boot magic 8.0 to try and boot the c and d it didnt boot the c but
did the d .
which was the hp recovery drive , i ran the recovery but much of the same

before that i ran this program

THis came from Runtimes's DiskExplorer for NTFS

most of its in ascii but im going to give u the part i can read



Invalid partion table .error loading operating system.Missing operating system





MBR Error

....ystem..

..Invaild.Master Boot Record

..Press a key to continue..





x windows NT Has Found only %dk of low memory. 512k of low memory.

is required to run windows Nt. You may need to upgrade your .

computer or run a configuration program provided by the manufacturer..

..Windows NT has not found enough extended memory. 7mb of extended.

memory is required to run Windows N

T. You may need to upgrade your.

computer or run a configuration program provided by the manufacturer..



..

..

..



..



Memory Map

.. NTLDR is corrupt. The system cannot boot.NTLDR is corrupt.The system
cannot reboot.



trap

Debug trap ========= DOUBLE FAULT======

===== STACK SEGMENT OVERRUN or NOT PRESENT FAULT==========.

==============GENERAL PROTECTION FAULT==========.

===============PAGE FA

ULT=======================.



** At linear address

======= EXCEPTION =========.

again thanks to all , i think their s still a couple tricks up my sleeves

Malke

zerocool 10 wrote:


> Thanks alot , i really thought there was an easier way to fix besides the
> rinse and repeat ' like i said the MBR and the ntldr are both mess up ,
> is there no quick fix to just add a new boot.ini

I don't think this is your problem. From your errors, you've hosed the
partition table. Either rebuild the partition table by hand (not an easy
task and only for experts) or flatten the system and clean install.

Standard disclaimer: I can't see and test your computer myself, so these
are just suggestions based on many years of being a professional
computer tech; suggestions based on what you've written. You should not
take my suggestions as a definitive diagnosis. If you can't do the work
yourself (and there is no shame in admitting this isn't your cup of
tea), take the machine to a professional computer repair shop (not your
local equivalent of BigComputerStore/GeekSquad). If possible, have all
your data backed up before you take the machine into a shop.

I don't really have anything further to add since I've said what I
think. Perhaps someone else will have a better idea for you. I wish you
good luck, and EOT for me.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP