Per Nermo

I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's) optional
new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio CODEC"
(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the message "No
sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red in the
System Tray).

I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and 'rolled
back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and immediately my Sound
Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).

How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully tested
software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to do to avoid
problems like this ?

OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning that
installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?

Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the updated
driver version installed ?

(I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)

regards,
Per Nermo
Oslo, Norway

Jerry

The usual procedure is to NOT download hardware drivers from Microsoft for
hardware devices that are made by companies other than Microsoft.

The correect procedure is to go to the web site of the appropriate
manufacturer and get the drivers there.

"Per Nermo" <nermo@online.no> wrote in message
news:AEF8E38D-D63B-446E-A570-71C264DA36BD@microsoft.com...
>I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's) optional
>new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio CODEC"
>(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the message "No
>sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red in
>the System Tray).
>
> I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and
> 'rolled back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and immediately my
> Sound Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).
>
> How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully
> tested software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to do to
> avoid problems like this ?
>
> OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning that
> installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?
>
> Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the updated
> driver version installed ?
>
> (I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
> WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)
>
> regards,
> Per Nermo
> Oslo, Norway

Baxter

That may be, but with IDT, or Sigmatel, or whoever may run it today, Nobody
is getting us the drivers. I spoke with my manufacturer who's only response
was, and I quote, "just don't update to SP1"

As I stated in a different post, its like going to a Doctor and saying "it
hurts when I do this" and his only response is "well, don't do that!"

It just gets a bit frustrating, I need the updated sigmatel driver, but
sigmatel is now IDT, who doesn't make new drivers so I have heard, and my
system manufacturer is no help either.

Like I said, just frustrating

Good luck to all,

Brian




"Jerry" wrote:

> The usual procedure is to NOT download hardware drivers from Microsoft for
> hardware devices that are made by companies other than Microsoft.
>
> The correect procedure is to go to the web site of the appropriate
> manufacturer and get the drivers there.
>
> "Per Nermo" <nermo@online.no> wrote in message
> news:AEF8E38D-D63B-446E-A570-71C264DA36BD@microsoft.com...
> >I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's) optional
> >new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio CODEC"
> >(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the message "No
> >sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red in
> >the System Tray).
> >
> > I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and
> > 'rolled back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and immediately my
> > Sound Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).
> >
> > How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully
> > tested software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to do to
> > avoid problems like this ?
> >
> > OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning that
> > installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?
> >
> > Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the updated
> > driver version installed ?
> >
> > (I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
> > WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)
> >
> > regards,
> > Per Nermo
> > Oslo, Norway
>
>
>

Baxter

Just tried it myself, installed fine, so it sain, rebooted, but no sound..
icon in tray did not have x through it, speaker output set to speaker, the
green bar even went up and down to the music in the volume control, but no
sound made it to the speakers. Looked in control panel and the idt codec had
the yellow exclamation on it, and also, after installing the idt codec, I
have 16 sound devices all labeled SndTDriverV32.........16 of them!!!???
why and what is that???
had to re-install the sigmatel codec to get the speakers working, even
though that will prevent me from getting sp1


16 of them!!! gonna start getting rid of them, or try to

"Baxter" wrote:

> That may be, but with IDT, or Sigmatel, or whoever may run it today, Nobody
> is getting us the drivers. I spoke with my manufacturer who's only response
> was, and I quote, "just don't update to SP1"
>
> As I stated in a different post, its like going to a Doctor and saying "it
> hurts when I do this" and his only response is "well, don't do that!"
>
> It just gets a bit frustrating, I need the updated sigmatel driver, but
> sigmatel is now IDT, who doesn't make new drivers so I have heard, and my
> system manufacturer is no help either.
>
> Like I said, just frustrating
>
> Good luck to all,
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry" wrote:
>
> > The usual procedure is to NOT download hardware drivers from Microsoft for
> > hardware devices that are made by companies other than Microsoft.
> >
> > The correect procedure is to go to the web site of the appropriate
> > manufacturer and get the drivers there.
> >
> > "Per Nermo" <nermo@online.no> wrote in message
> > news:AEF8E38D-D63B-446E-A570-71C264DA36BD@microsoft.com...
> > >I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's) optional
> > >new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio CODEC"
> > >(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the message "No
> > >sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red in
> > >the System Tray).
> > >
> > > I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and
> > > 'rolled back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and immediately my
> > > Sound Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).
> > >
> > > How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully
> > > tested software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to do to
> > > avoid problems like this ?
> > >
> > > OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning that
> > > installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?
> > >
> > > Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the updated
> > > driver version installed ?
> > >
> > > (I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
> > > WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Per Nermo
> > > Oslo, Norway
> >
> >
> >

Per Nermo

Didn't you, so far, install Vista SP1 ? Why not ? I did, and had no trouble,
except from this darned IDT driver update that disabled my sound device.

Per

"Baxter" <Baxter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E3BE9446-60D9-4CF6-A19B-8C59063F3405@microsoft.com...
> Just tried it myself, installed fine, so it sain, rebooted, but no sound..
> icon in tray did not have x through it, speaker output set to speaker, the
> green bar even went up and down to the music in the volume control, but no
> sound made it to the speakers. Looked in control panel and the idt codec
had
> the yellow exclamation on it, and also, after installing the idt codec, I
> have 16 sound devices all labeled SndTDriverV32.........16 of them!!!???
> why and what is that???
> had to re-install the sigmatel codec to get the speakers working, even
> though that will prevent me from getting sp1
>
>
> 16 of them!!! gonna start getting rid of them, or try to
>
> "Baxter" wrote:
>
> > That may be, but with IDT, or Sigmatel, or whoever may run it today,
Nobody
> > is getting us the drivers. I spoke with my manufacturer who's only
response
> > was, and I quote, "just don't update to SP1"
> >
> > As I stated in a different post, its like going to a Doctor and saying
"it
> > hurts when I do this" and his only response is "well, don't do that!"
> >
> > It just gets a bit frustrating, I need the updated sigmatel driver, but
> > sigmatel is now IDT, who doesn't make new drivers so I have heard, and
my
> > system manufacturer is no help either.
> >
> > Like I said, just frustrating
> >
> > Good luck to all,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry" wrote:
> >
> > > The usual procedure is to NOT download hardware drivers from Microsoft
for
> > > hardware devices that are made by companies other than Microsoft.
> > >
> > > The correect procedure is to go to the web site of the appropriate
> > > manufacturer and get the drivers there.
> > >
> > > "Per Nermo" <nermo@online.no> wrote in message
> > > news:AEF8E38D-D63B-446E-A570-71C264DA36BD@microsoft.com...
> > > >I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's)
optional
> > > >new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio
CODEC"
> > > >(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the
message "No
> > > >sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red
in
> > > >the System Tray).
> > > >
> > > > I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and
> > > > 'rolled back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and
immediately my
> > > > Sound Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).
> > > >
> > > > How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully
> > > > tested software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to
do to
> > > > avoid problems like this ?
> > > >
> > > > OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning
that
> > > > installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?
> > > >
> > > > Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the
updated
> > > > driver version installed ?
> > > >
> > > > (I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
> > > > WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Per Nermo
> > > > Oslo, Norway
> > >
> > >
> > >

Jerry

Then stop buying hardware from a vendor that does not update their drivers.
Easy fix.

"Baxter" <Baxter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CF255F0C-6C01-42C1-8E92-9C0556A7D8EF@microsoft.com...
> That may be, but with IDT, or Sigmatel, or whoever may run it today,
> Nobody
> is getting us the drivers. I spoke with my manufacturer who's only
> response
> was, and I quote, "just don't update to SP1"
>
> As I stated in a different post, its like going to a Doctor and saying "it
> hurts when I do this" and his only response is "well, don't do that!"
>
> It just gets a bit frustrating, I need the updated sigmatel driver, but
> sigmatel is now IDT, who doesn't make new drivers so I have heard, and my
> system manufacturer is no help either.
>
> Like I said, just frustrating
>
> Good luck to all,
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry" wrote:
>
>> The usual procedure is to NOT download hardware drivers from Microsoft
>> for
>> hardware devices that are made by companies other than Microsoft.
>>
>> The correect procedure is to go to the web site of the appropriate
>> manufacturer and get the drivers there.
>>
>> "Per Nermo" <nermo@online.no> wrote in message
>> news:AEF8E38D-D63B-446E-A570-71C264DA36BD@microsoft.com...
>> >I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's)
>> >optional
>> >new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio CODEC"
>> >(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the message
>> >"No
>> >sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red in
>> >the System Tray).
>> >
>> > I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and
>> > 'rolled back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and immediately
>> > my
>> > Sound Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).
>> >
>> > How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully
>> > tested software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to do
>> > to
>> > avoid problems like this ?
>> >
>> > OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning that
>> > installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?
>> >
>> > Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the
>> > updated
>> > driver version installed ?
>> >
>> > (I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
>> > WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Per Nermo
>> > Oslo, Norway
>>
>>
>>

captfbgnet

See: Microsoft IDT update corrupts Sigma Tel Sound - Desktop - Audio - Dell
Community Forum#M83043:
http://www.dellcommunity.com/support...=197483#M83043


"Per Nermo" <nermo@online.no> wrote in message
news:AEF8E38D-D63B-446E-A570-71C264DA36BD@microsoft.com...
>I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's) optional
>new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio CODEC"
>(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the message "No
>sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red in
>the System Tray).
>
> I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and
> 'rolled back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and immediately my
> Sound Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).
>
> How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully
> tested software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to do to
> avoid problems like this ?
>
> OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning that
> installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?
>
> Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the updated
> driver version installed ?
>
> (I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
> WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)
>
> regards,
> Per Nermo
> Oslo, Norway

Baxter

sp1 wouldn't even show up as an available update, was on chat support for 4
hrs with microsoft, finally got sp1 available, they cut me loose, said all
was well, did the 1 hr sp1 install routine, and voila....sp1
installed......NO SOUND!!!! getting tired of this

"Per Nermo" wrote:

> Didn't you, so far, install Vista SP1 ? Why not ? I did, and had no trouble,
> except from this darned IDT driver update that disabled my sound device.
>
> Per
>
> "Baxter" <Baxter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E3BE9446-60D9-4CF6-A19B-8C59063F3405@microsoft.com...
> > Just tried it myself, installed fine, so it sain, rebooted, but no sound..
> > icon in tray did not have x through it, speaker output set to speaker, the
> > green bar even went up and down to the music in the volume control, but no
> > sound made it to the speakers. Looked in control panel and the idt codec
> had
> > the yellow exclamation on it, and also, after installing the idt codec, I
> > have 16 sound devices all labeled SndTDriverV32.........16 of them!!!???
> > why and what is that???
> > had to re-install the sigmatel codec to get the speakers working, even
> > though that will prevent me from getting sp1
> >
> >
> > 16 of them!!! gonna start getting rid of them, or try to
> >
> > "Baxter" wrote:
> >
> > > That may be, but with IDT, or Sigmatel, or whoever may run it today,
> Nobody
> > > is getting us the drivers. I spoke with my manufacturer who's only
> response
> > > was, and I quote, "just don't update to SP1"
> > >
> > > As I stated in a different post, its like going to a Doctor and saying
> "it
> > > hurts when I do this" and his only response is "well, don't do that!"
> > >
> > > It just gets a bit frustrating, I need the updated sigmatel driver, but
> > > sigmatel is now IDT, who doesn't make new drivers so I have heard, and
> my
> > > system manufacturer is no help either.
> > >
> > > Like I said, just frustrating
> > >
> > > Good luck to all,
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jerry" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The usual procedure is to NOT download hardware drivers from Microsoft
> for
> > > > hardware devices that are made by companies other than Microsoft.
> > > >
> > > > The correect procedure is to go to the web site of the appropriate
> > > > manufacturer and get the drivers there.
> > > >
> > > > "Per Nermo" <nermo@online.no> wrote in message
> > > > news:AEF8E38D-D63B-446E-A570-71C264DA36BD@microsoft.com...
> > > > >I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's)
> optional
> > > > >new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio
> CODEC"
> > > > >(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the
> message "No
> > > > >sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red
> in
> > > > >the System Tray).
> > > > >
> > > > > I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and
> > > > > 'rolled back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and
> immediately my
> > > > > Sound Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).
> > > > >
> > > > > How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully
> > > > > tested software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to
> do to
> > > > > avoid problems like this ?
> > > > >
> > > > > OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning
> that
> > > > > installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the
> updated
> > > > > driver version installed ?
> > > > >
> > > > > (I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
> > > > > WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > Per Nermo
> > > > > Oslo, Norway
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
>

Baxter

gee thanks Jerry,


"Jerry" wrote:

> Then stop buying hardware from a vendor that does not update their drivers.
> Easy fix.
>
> "Baxter" <Baxter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CF255F0C-6C01-42C1-8E92-9C0556A7D8EF@microsoft.com...
> > That may be, but with IDT, or Sigmatel, or whoever may run it today,
> > Nobody
> > is getting us the drivers. I spoke with my manufacturer who's only
> > response
> > was, and I quote, "just don't update to SP1"
> >
> > As I stated in a different post, its like going to a Doctor and saying "it
> > hurts when I do this" and his only response is "well, don't do that!"
> >
> > It just gets a bit frustrating, I need the updated sigmatel driver, but
> > sigmatel is now IDT, who doesn't make new drivers so I have heard, and my
> > system manufacturer is no help either.
> >
> > Like I said, just frustrating
> >
> > Good luck to all,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry" wrote:
> >
> >> The usual procedure is to NOT download hardware drivers from Microsoft
> >> for
> >> hardware devices that are made by companies other than Microsoft.
> >>
> >> The correect procedure is to go to the web site of the appropriate
> >> manufacturer and get the drivers there.
> >>
> >> "Per Nermo" <nermo@online.no> wrote in message
> >> news:AEF8E38D-D63B-446E-A570-71C264DA36BD@microsoft.com...
> >> >I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's)
> >> >optional
> >> >new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio CODEC"
> >> >(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the message
> >> >"No
> >> >sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red in
> >> >the System Tray).
> >> >
> >> > I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and
> >> > 'rolled back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and immediately
> >> > my
> >> > Sound Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).
> >> >
> >> > How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully
> >> > tested software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to do
> >> > to
> >> > avoid problems like this ?
> >> >
> >> > OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning that
> >> > installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?
> >> >
> >> > Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the
> >> > updated
> >> > driver version installed ?
> >> >
> >> > (I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
> >> > WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)
> >> >
> >> > regards,
> >> > Per Nermo
> >> > Oslo, Norway
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Dave Horne

Go to Dell's web site - this is a known problem with a solution.

http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/ There are also other threads
here that address this.


"Per Nermo" <nermo@online.no> wrote in message
news:AEF8E38D-D63B-446E-A570-71C264DA36BD@microsoft.com...
>I was encouraged today bt WindowsUpdate to install (yesterday's) optional
>new version (from Sep 2007 ?) of the "IDT High Definition Audio CODEC"
>(driver), and having done so, after a system Restart, I got the message "No
>sound device installed" (and the loudspeaker icon was crossed out red in
>the System Tray).
>
> I then entered the CP - System - Device handler - Sound device - and
> 'rolled back' to the previous driver version, then OK'd and immediately my
> Sound Device was back again, fresh and sound (literally).
>
> How is it that we obviously can not trust Microsoft to provide fully
> tested software pushed by Windows Update ? What is MS intending to do to
> avoid problems like this ?
>
> OR: What did I do wrong to experience this ? Did I miss a warning that
> installing this update might remove my Sound Device ?
>
> Does there exist a means to "re-enable" the Sound Device with the updated
> driver version installed ?
>
> (I'm running Vista (Home Premium) SP 1 (installed on Apr 18 through
> WindowsUpdate) on a DELL 9400 Inspiron LapTop)
>
> regards,
> Per Nermo
> Oslo, Norway