Stevepppp@gmail.com

Next to a clean windows refresh, there's only one method of removing
anti-spy / antivirus

Only one malware remover software worked for me and that was Spyware
Doctor by PC Tools.

Malware Remover Software (that I've tried)

Spyware Doctor (PC Tools)
Clean Refresh (reformat & start over)
Trend Micro
AVG
Mcafee
Panda AV
Avira
Avast
NOD32
Norton
Kapersky


Details

Spyware Doctor
Does the trick. Cheap, yet good. Bear in mind, that statement is valid
right now. Who knows what the future holds.

Clean Refresh
You can bet that malware idiots will even outfox PC Tools someday
soon. So the old clean refresh will become the number one again as it
has for over a decade now. A clean refresh with a reformat, popping
the battery on the motherboard is often the best and fastest choice.

Trend Micro
Takes a long time to scan your files and eats up resources only to
leave a half dozen rogue software still affecting you. $49 per year.
Save your money.

AVG & Mcafee were always one of the better anti-malware software and
still is, unfortunately, both are useless at removing today's latest
greatest rogue malwares.

Panda, Avira, NOD32, Avast - cheap, tiny & therefore useless.

Norton, still the most overrated software company on the planet. I've
had more headaches using Norton than the things it was meant to cure.
Some of Norton's software in the packaged bundle is good; however not
too much. Expensive, powerful, but defective.

Kapersky was awful when it first came out, causing much more headaches
than the actual virus' and spy software it was trying to kill. It's
slllooowly improving over five years and counting. Expensive and
resource hound.

Here's what I do. I have two computers, a SAFE computer with all my
work, everything I have is on it and it would take me hours to reset
all the settings over again so I NEVER NEVER NEVER go online but to
only a handful of sites I know to be malware free. The second PC is my
ADVANTURE computer that I only use when testing unknown sites for the
first time. The instant, I mean INSTANT, I get hit with malware, the
thing gets turned off, I reformat and load a fresh copy of windows on
that PC. Little time is lost. Best solution of all.

Good luck and stay clean.

Positive/negative feedback invited.

PA Bear [MS MVP]

1. Symantec has an agreement to acquire PC Tools so expect the application
to be history or ruined soon:
http://www.symantec.com/about/news/r...id=20080818_02

> Trend Micro
> AVG
> Mcafee
> Panda AV
> Avira
> Avast
> NOD32
> Norton
> Kapersky

2. NONE of the above are or include anti-spyware applications though some
are able to identify & remove hijackware. Many of them will block the
installation of hijackware or at least alert you to that fact that you're
installing something untoward (or it's attempting to install).

3. Even Spyware Doctor can't identify & remove all hijackware. Nothing
beats a good pair of eyes backed by intelligence and experience.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Stevepppp@gmail.com wrote:
> Next to a clean windows refresh, there's only one method of removing
> anti-spy / antivirus
>
> Only one malware remover software worked for me and that was Spyware
> Doctor by PC Tools.
>
> Malware Remover Software (that I've tried)
>
> Spyware Doctor (PC Tools)
> Clean Refresh (reformat & start over)
> Trend Micro
> AVG
> Mcafee
> Panda AV
> Avira
> Avast
> NOD32
> Norton
> Kapersky
>
>
> Details
>
> Spyware Doctor
> Does the trick. Cheap, yet good. Bear in mind, that statement is valid
> right now. Who knows what the future holds.
>
> Clean Refresh
> You can bet that malware idiots will even outfox PC Tools someday
> soon. So the old clean refresh will become the number one again as it
> has for over a decade now. A clean refresh with a reformat, popping
> the battery on the motherboard is often the best and fastest choice.
>
> Trend Micro
> Takes a long time to scan your files and eats up resources only to
> leave a half dozen rogue software still affecting you. $49 per year.
> Save your money.
>
> AVG & Mcafee were always one of the better anti-malware software and
> still is, unfortunately, both are useless at removing today's latest
> greatest rogue malwares.
>
> Panda, Avira, NOD32, Avast - cheap, tiny & therefore useless.
>
> Norton, still the most overrated software company on the planet. I've
> had more headaches using Norton than the things it was meant to cure.
> Some of Norton's software in the packaged bundle is good; however not
> too much. Expensive, powerful, but defective.
>
> Kapersky was awful when it first came out, causing much more headaches
> than the actual virus' and spy software it was trying to kill. It's
> slllooowly improving over five years and counting. Expensive and
> resource hound.
>
> Here's what I do. I have two computers, a SAFE computer with all my
> work, everything I have is on it and it would take me hours to reset
> all the settings over again so I NEVER NEVER NEVER go online but to
> only a handful of sites I know to be malware free. The second PC is my
> ADVANTURE computer that I only use when testing unknown sites for the
> first time. The instant, I mean INSTANT, I get hit with malware, the
> thing gets turned off, I reformat and load a fresh copy of windows on
> that PC. Little time is lost. Best solution of all.
>
> Good luck and stay clean.
>
> Positive/negative feedback invited.

~BD~

Hi

You said "The instant, I mean INSTANT, I get hit with malware, the thing
gets turned off, I reformat and load a fresh copy of windows on that PC.
Little time is lost. Best solution of all."

Please will you expand ............ and advise exactly how you *know* that
you have been "hit with malware".

Many thanks,

Dave

--

<Stevepppp@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> Here's what I do. I have two computers, a SAFE computer with all my
> work, everything I have is on it and it would take me hours to reset
> all the settings over again so I NEVER NEVER NEVER go online but to
> only a handful of sites I know to be malware free. The second PC is my
> ADVANTURE computer that I only use when testing unknown sites for the
> first time. The instant, I mean INSTANT, I get hit with malware, the
> thing gets turned off, I reformat and load a fresh copy of windows on
> that PC. Little time is lost. Best solution of all.
>
> Good luck and stay clean.
>
> Positive/negative feedback invited.
>
>

Stevepppp@gmail.com

On Aug 25, 3:07*pm, "~BD~" <~...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Hi
>
> You said "The instant, I mean INSTANT, I get hit with malware, the thing
> gets turned off, I reformat and load a fresh copy of windows on that PC.
> Little time is lost. Best solution of all."
>
> Please will you expand ............ and advise exactly how you *know* that
> you have been "hit with malware".
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Dave
>
> --
>
> <Stevep...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2c19ee6c-aa7b-4edd-a9af-b646ebd803f9@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> <snip>
>
>
>
> > Here's what I do. I have two computers, a SAFE computer with all my
> > work, everything I have is on it and it would take me hours to reset
> > all the settings over again so I NEVER NEVER NEVER go online but to
> > only a handful of sites I know to be malware free. The second PC is my
> > ADVANTURE computer that I only use when testing unknown sites for the
> > first time. The instant, I mean INSTANT, I get hit with malware, the
> > thing gets turned off, I reformat and load a fresh copy of windows on
> > that PC. Little time is lost. Best solution of all.
>
> > Good luck and stay clean.
>
> > Positive/negative feedback invited.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Stevepppp@gmail.com

On Aug 25, 2:23 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. Symantec has an agreement to acquire PC Tools so expect the application
> to be history or ruined soon:http://www.symantec.com/about/news/r...id=20080818_02

= 12 of this = a dozen of that = yawn

>
> > Trend Micro
> > AVG
> > Mcafee
> > Panda AV
> > Avira
> > Avast
> > NOD32
> > Norton
> > Kapersky
>
> 2. NONE of the above are or include anti-spyware applications though some
> are able to identify & remove hijackware. Many of them will block the
> installation of hijackware or at least alert you to that fact that you're
> installing something untoward (or it's attempting to install).

Try all of them.


>
> 3. Even Spyware Doctor can't identify & remove all hijackware. Nothing
> beats a good pair of eyes backed by intelligence and experience.

Dream on.





On Aug 25, 3:07 pm, "~BD~" <~...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Please will you expand ............ and advise exactly how you *know* that
> you have been "hit with malware".
>
You don't know what malware is? Can you say 2008.

Stevepppp@gmail.com

On Aug 25, 4:28*pm, Stevep...@gmail.com wrote:

Windows has it's own malware remover .. errr "remove only the easy
malware" remover.

START ==> RUN ==> Type MRT.EXE.

Again this doesn't kill the most latest robust rogue stuff, but it's
free and fast, so it's worth one pass anyway.

Stevepppp@gmail.com

Malwarebytes software removes all malware fast and easy.

You can see where to get it from this Youtube presentation here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8h3OKmn_aE

All the other aforementioned so-called anti-malware software are
actually malware themselves. I'd bet real money that many or even most
of these companies are the very sources that infect pcs.

S. Pidgorny

G'day:

Stevepppp@gmail.com wrote:

>> 3. Even Spyware Doctor can't identify & remove all hijackware. Nothing
>> beats a good pair of eyes backed by intelligence and experience.
>
> Dream on.

Nothing beats that in preventing malware infection.

--
Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
-= F1 is the key =-

* http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *

~BD~

<Stevepppp@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:562d7032-1027-44a0-9b42-855c0ac4d200@s1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> Malwarebytes software removes all malware fast and easy.
>
> You can see where to get it from this Youtube presentation here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8h3OKmn_aE
>
> All the other aforementioned so-called anti-malware software are
> actually malware themselves. I'd bet real money that many or even most
> of these companies are the very sources that infect pcs.
>

Forgive me ? ......... Steve? ............. but I cannot see, anywhere, your
answer to my question.

Have I missed it - or aren't you going to tell me?

My current understanding is that the 'best' malware may be surrepticiously
installed on a computer without the knowledge of a user and might well
remain undetected thereafter - unless one goes looking for it.

If you don't look, HOW do *you* know you have been 'hit'?

Dave

Ken

Stevepppp@gmail.com wrote:
> Next to a clean windows refresh, there's only one method of removing
> anti-spy / antivirus
> (snip)

On many occasions I've seen this advice - "reformat and
reload is the best solution"

I've got a 3 year old IBM PC that came with XP Pro (and
other software) reloadable from a hidden section of the hard
drive. (Note: this is pre-SP2)

I'm current on all XP Pro updates.
Now... the $64 question: how do I reformat and reload?