Adam

Viewing the following URL ...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?
And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?

Robert Campbell

Adam wrote:
> Viewing the following URL ...
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
> in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
> Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?
> And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?
>
>
To allow JavaScript? At least that holds true in Firefox.

Adam

"Robert Campbell" <ravens@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Adam wrote:
> > Viewing the following URL ...
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
> > in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
> > Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?
> > And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?
> >
>
> To allow JavaScript? At least that holds true in Firefox.


It's enabled as follows ...
http://gsaauctions.gov/brow_details/IE6instr.htm

However, I have Google Toolbar and Ad-Aware installed.
Google Toolbar has a Popup Blocker. Could this be the cause?
If so, is there a way to enable selectively (for msdn.microsoft.com)?

Robert Aldwinckle

"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
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> Viewing the following URL ...
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
> in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
> Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?


If I move my mouse to the left I get a tooltip:
Click and drag to resize. Double click or press 't' to toggle visibility.

That works! Who knew? ; )


> And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

Note: I am not on USENET but will leave the cross-post to ba.internet anyway.

Adam

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:2%Crk.10769$L_.9639@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
> > Viewing the following URL ...
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
> > in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
> > Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?
>
>
> If I move my mouse to the left I get a tooltip:
> Click and drag to resize. Double click or press 't' to toggle visibility.
>
> That works! Who knew?
>
>
> > And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
> Note: I am not on USENET but will leave the cross-post to ba.internet anyway.
>

I don't know what happened but when I reopened IE to
try out the toggle feature, the MSDN Library tree automatically came up
expanded.
And, I have not knowingly changed anything. Bizarre!

Adam

"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
> news:#TBHzEJBJHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> > news:2%Crk.10769$L_.9639@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
> > > Viewing the following URL ...
> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
> > > in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
> > > Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?
> >
> >
> > If I move my mouse to the left I get a tooltip:
> > Click and drag to resize. Double click or press 't' to toggle visibility.
> >
> > That works! Who knew?
> >
> >
> > > And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?
> >
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Robert Aldwinckle
> > ---
> >
> > Note: I am not on USENET but will leave the cross-post to ba.internet
anyway.
> >
>
> I don't know what happened but when I reopened IE to
> try out the toggle feature, the MSDN Library tree automatically came up
> expanded. And, I have not knowingly changed anything. Bizarre!
>

More info ...

When the problem occurs (yes, it's still there but not always),
the status bar shows the "Error on page" message.
I tried the toggle feature but I don't think I understood it right since
I couldn't get it to work. Luckily, there's a workaround ... "Refresh".

Dan

There have been too many error on page problems recently --- very annoying

"Adam" wrote:

>
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:%5Frk.18603$cW3.1903@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >
> > "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:#TBHzEJBJHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2%Crk.10769$L_.9639@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
> > > > Viewing the following URL ...
> > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
> > > > in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
> > > > Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?
> > >
> > >
> > > If I move my mouse to the left I get a tooltip:
> > > Click and drag to resize. Double click or press 't' to toggle visibility.
> > >
> > > That works! Who knew?
> > >
> > >
> > > > And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Robert Aldwinckle
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Note: I am not on USENET but will leave the cross-post to ba.internet
> anyway.
> > >
> >
> > I don't know what happened but when I reopened IE to
> > try out the toggle feature, the MSDN Library tree automatically came up
> > expanded. And, I have not knowingly changed anything. Bizarre!
> >
>
> More info ...
>
> When the problem occurs (yes, it's still there but not always),
> the status bar shows the "Error on page" message.
> I tried the toggle feature but I don't think I understood it right since
> I couldn't get it to work. Luckily, there's a workaround ... "Refresh".
>
>
>

Robert Aldwinckle

"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:%5Frk.18603$cW3.1903@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:#TBHzEJBJHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2%Crk.10769$L_.9639@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> > > Viewing the following URL ...
>> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
>> > > in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
>> > > Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?
>> >
>> >
>> > If I move my mouse to the left I get a tooltip:
>> > Click and drag to resize. Double click or press 't' to toggle visibility.
>> >
>> > That works! Who knew?
>> >
>> >
>> > > And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?
>> >
>> >
>> > HTH
>> >
>> > Robert Aldwinckle
>> > ---
>> >
>> > Note: I am not on USENET but will leave the cross-post to ba.internet
> anyway.
>> >
>>
>> I don't know what happened but when I reopened IE to
>> try out the toggle feature, the MSDN Library tree automatically came up
>> expanded. And, I have not knowingly changed anything. Bizarre!
>>
>
> More info ...
>
> When the problem occurs (yes, it's still there but not always),
> the status bar shows the "Error on page" message.

> I tried the toggle feature but I don't think I understood it right since
> I couldn't get it to work.


The more conventional method of hiding that tree is to drag its frame's
right edge over to the left border of the window. Then you may be more
grateful for the T to toggle it back on. ; )


> Luckily, there's a workaround ... "Refresh".


Have you looked to see what needs to be redownloaded? Does its size change?
Then you could be looking at it as a symptom of an MTU size problem.
E.g. the routing might change as a result of the Refresh. Etc.

Do the number of items downloaded change? Then perhaps Refresh helps avoid
a timing problem in the scripts?

Have you tried pressing Ctrl-F5 for Refresh? Then everything could be downloaded
as if your TIF was empty. So using Ctrl-F5 could have two effects for you:
download and cache newer versions of files which aren't yet expired
or reproduce a symptom that you may be claiming using just F5 somehow avoids.

Tip: you could use Fiddler2 to trace the requests and responses
for each case. Oops. Your cross-post suggests that your OS is Win9x
in which case you would *not* have that option available to you.
I have no idea how users of such an OS could trace HTTP.
Perhaps if a hardware firewall was also involved they could find
a trace facility in it.


Good luck

Robert
---

Adam

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:miYrk.37639$ZE5.369@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >
> > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> > news:%5Frk.18603$cW3.1903@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>
> >> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:#TBHzEJBJHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:2%Crk.10769$L_.9639@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
> >> > > Viewing the following URL ...
> >> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
> >> > > in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
> >> > > Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If I move my mouse to the left I get a tooltip:
> >> > Click and drag to resize. Double click or press 't' to toggle visibility.
> >> >
> >> > That works! Who knew?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > HTH
> >> >
> >> > Robert Aldwinckle
> >> > ---
> >> >
> >> > Note: I am not on USENET but will leave the cross-post to ba.internet
> > anyway.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't know what happened but when I reopened IE to
> >> try out the toggle feature, the MSDN Library tree automatically came up
> >> expanded. And, I have not knowingly changed anything. Bizarre!
> >>
> >
> > More info ...
> >
> > When the problem occurs (yes, it's still there but not always),
> > the status bar shows the "Error on page" message.
>
> > I tried the toggle feature but I don't think I understood it right since
> > I couldn't get it to work.
>
>
> The more conventional method of hiding that tree is to drag its frame's
> right edge over to the left border of the window. Then you may be more
> grateful for the T to toggle it back on. ; )
>

Using IE ... when the "Error on page" or "Done" message appears in
the status bar with an exclamation warning icon, that's when
the MSDN Library tree is collapsed. And, I cannot ...
- click and drag to resize
- double click or press 't' to toggle visibility

The open/close/resize features do not work.


So long as "Refresh" works as a workaround, I'm fine for now.
Will dig further when I have more time.

Dan

Multi-boot -- 98 SE, XP Professional, Ubuntu Linux --- trying out, etc.

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:miYrk.37639$ZE5.369@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >
> > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> > news:%5Frk.18603$cW3.1903@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>
> >> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:#TBHzEJBJHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:2%Crk.10769$L_.9639@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
> >> > > Viewing the following URL ...
> >> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139672.aspx
> >> > > in IE but can't expand and view the MSDN Library tree.
> >> > > Clicking on the '+' icon does nothing. Anyone know why?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If I move my mouse to the left I get a tooltip:
> >> > Click and drag to resize. Double click or press 't' to toggle visibility.
> >> >
> >> > That works! Who knew?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > And, what do I need to do in order to expand and view the TOC?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > HTH
> >> >
> >> > Robert Aldwinckle
> >> > ---
> >> >
> >> > Note: I am not on USENET but will leave the cross-post to ba.internet
> > anyway.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't know what happened but when I reopened IE to
> >> try out the toggle feature, the MSDN Library tree automatically came up
> >> expanded. And, I have not knowingly changed anything. Bizarre!
> >>
> >
> > More info ...
> >
> > When the problem occurs (yes, it's still there but not always),
> > the status bar shows the "Error on page" message.
>
> > I tried the toggle feature but I don't think I understood it right since
> > I couldn't get it to work.
>
>
> The more conventional method of hiding that tree is to drag its frame's
> right edge over to the left border of the window. Then you may be more
> grateful for the T to toggle it back on. ; )
>
>
> > Luckily, there's a workaround ... "Refresh".
>
>
> Have you looked to see what needs to be redownloaded? Does its size change?
> Then you could be looking at it as a symptom of an MTU size problem.
> E.g. the routing might change as a result of the Refresh. Etc.
>
> Do the number of items downloaded change? Then perhaps Refresh helps avoid
> a timing problem in the scripts?
>
> Have you tried pressing Ctrl-F5 for Refresh? Then everything could be downloaded
> as if your TIF was empty. So using Ctrl-F5 could have two effects for you:
> download and cache newer versions of files which aren't yet expired
> or reproduce a symptom that you may be claiming using just F5 somehow avoids.
>
> Tip: you could use Fiddler2 to trace the requests and responses
> for each case. Oops. Your cross-post suggests that your OS is Win9x
> in which case you would *not* have that option available to you.
> I have no idea how users of such an OS could trace HTTP.
> Perhaps if a hardware firewall was also involved they could find
> a trace facility in it.
>
>
> Good luck
>
> Robert
> ---
>
>
>