mc

I'm reinstalling my old win 95 (1st version) that came with my packard bell.
It is not installing my hp laser jet 5L correctly using the original disks
(3).It did not install an uninstall icon either. I tried to install abuilt
in driver like the hp 4L but it does not install either. Anyone remember any
tricks to get the hardware wizard to install a driver? How can I uninstall
the the driver I installed but did not work?
mc

Jeff Richards

In W98, you uninstall a printer by right-clicking the printer in the
printers 'folder' in My Computer and selecting Delete.

Only the supprting utilities that the vendor sometimes provides will have an
entry in Add/Remove Programs.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"mc" <wcwall.awm@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> I'm reinstalling my old win 95 (1st version) that came with my packard
> bell. It is not installing my hp laser jet 5L correctly using the original
> disks (3).It did not install an uninstall icon either. I tried to install
> abuilt in driver like the hp 4L but it does not install either. Anyone
> remember any tricks to get the hardware wizard to install a driver? How
> can I uninstall the the driver I installed but did not work?
> mc
>

philo

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
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> In W98, you uninstall a printer by right-clicking the printer in the
> printers 'folder' in My Computer and selecting Delete.
>
> Only the supprting utilities that the vendor sometimes provides will have
an
> entry in Add/Remove Programs.



And the proceedure for win95 would be the same



> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "mc" <wcwall.awm@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:uDkmWv0oIHA.5836@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > I'm reinstalling my old win 95 (1st version) that came with my packard
> > bell. It is not installing my hp laser jet 5L correctly using the
original
> > disks (3).It did not install an uninstall icon either. I tried to
install
> > abuilt in driver like the hp 4L but it does not install either. Anyone
> > remember any tricks to get the hardware wizard to install a driver? How
> > can I uninstall the the driver I installed but did not work?
> > mc
> >
>
>

mc

I'm wondering if that will also remove the status window it created that
sits on the staus bar??
mc
"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
> news:ucbmGH5oIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> In W98, you uninstall a printer by right-clicking the printer in the
>> printers 'folder' in My Computer and selecting Delete.
>>
>> Only the supprting utilities that the vendor sometimes provides will have
> an
>> entry in Add/Remove Programs.
>
>
>
> And the proceedure for win95 would be the same
>
>
>
>> Jeff Richards
>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>> "mc" <wcwall.awm@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:uDkmWv0oIHA.5836@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > I'm reinstalling my old win 95 (1st version) that came with my packard
>> > bell. It is not installing my hp laser jet 5L correctly using the
> original
>> > disks (3).It did not install an uninstall icon either. I tried to
> install
>> > abuilt in driver like the hp 4L but it does not install either. Anyone
>> > remember any tricks to get the hardware wizard to install a driver? How
>> > can I uninstall the the driver I installed but did not work?
>> > mc
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Richards

It would indeed
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Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> snip <
>
> And the proceedure for win95 would be the same
>
>
>
>> Jeff Richards
>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>> "mc" <wcwall.awm@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:uDkmWv0oIHA.5836@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > I'm reinstalling my old win 95 (1st version) that came with my packard
>> > bell. It is not installing my hp laser jet 5L correctly using the
> original
>> > disks (3).It did not install an uninstall icon either. I tried to
> install
>> > abuilt in driver like the hp 4L but it does not install either. Anyone
>> > remember any tricks to get the hardware wizard to install a driver? How
>> > can I uninstall the the driver I installed but did not work?
>> > mc
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

mc

well the right click approach will not let me delete the icon...I wonder if
there was a printer update for the first versions of win 95 A?
mc

Jeff Richards

What happened when you tried? Is the delete option missing or greyed out,
or is it there but doesn't seem to do anything?

Have you tried selecting the printer and then hitting DEL or choosing File /
Delete?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"mc" <wcwall.awm@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> well the right click approach will not let me delete the icon...I wonder
> if there was a printer update for the first versions of win 95 A?
> mc
>

mc

It just does not respond...
mc
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
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> What happened when you tried? Is the delete option missing or greyed out,
> or is it there but doesn't seem to do anything?
>
> Have you tried selecting the printer and then hitting DEL or choosing File
> / Delete?
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "mc" <wcwall.awm@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:O%23rQXEapIHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> well the right click approach will not let me delete the icon...I wonder
>> if there was a printer update for the first versions of win 95 A?
>> mc
>>
>
>

J. P. Gilliver

thanatoid wrote:
[]
> Since the OP was talking about 95A (and because I get lazy), I
> did not bother getting into 98SE, let alone Lite.
>
> I have been a happy user of 98SE Lite for about 4 years, since I

Nice to meet another fan; lite seems to be viewed somewhat suspiciously in
at least one of the '98 'groups.
[]
> drive on which I installed the aforementioned 98SE Lite. I left
> IE in because it is necessary to read chm files, but that

If those are HTML-style help files, then you don't need the full IE - just
it's "rendering engine" (which I think is a couple of .dll files). I can't
remember the details though, nor where I learnt this.

> machine is not even connected to the internet, so no IE
> "problems" :-)
>
> My internet machine (this one) is a 10.5 year old 166 w/ 96MB
> RAM running highly tweaked 95B. It boots in less than 45 seconds
> and never crashes. Take that, Vista.

My internet machine is a 400MHz laptop w/128M running highly tweaked
98lite - it does most of what I want, fairly reliably - _rarely_ crashes.
The assorted spoilsports keep making things difficult for we '9x fans,
though (mainly by withdrawing support in new versions of things).
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J. P. Gilliver | Tel. +44 1634 203298

J. P. Gilliver

thanatoid wrote:
> "J. P. Gilliver" <john.gilliver@baesystems.com> wrote in
> news:4876466c$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net:
>
>> thanatoid wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>
>>> I have been a happy user of 98SE Lite for about 4 years,
>>> since I
>>
>> Nice to meet another fan; lite seems to be viewed somewhat
>> suspiciously in at least one of the '98 'groups.
>
> The one full of venerable MVP's, I would imagine...

Hmm. I hadn't entirely made that connection ... (-:
[]
> going anywhere. I think having IE on an internet-connected
> machine is probably OK as long as you NEVER use it for anything
> BUT chm files :-)
>
> (Of course, I have forgotten its tendencies to "take over all
> internet functions" etc. since the last time I used it for
> internet was probably about 10 years ago.)

Not just all _internet_ fns, AFAICR (I haven't had it on for years either).
[]
>> reliably - _rarely_ crashes. The assorted spoilsports keep
>> making things difficult for we '9x fans, though (mainly by
>> withdrawing support in new versions of things).
>
> Yes, it's very annoying. Like it would KILL them to keep
> providing small simple (AOT Vista or even XP) drivers. Sometimes
> you get lucky - I haven't installed any new hardware for ages,
> but I read recently someone used 2000 drivers for something and
> they worked on 98. I HAVE used software which claims not to run
> on 95 and it works. And the other way around, unfortunately.

Ditto (especially pen drives. And yes, I do know about the "universal" USB
driver - screwed up my machine right royally; conversely, I've recently set
up a machine using soporific's "10th anniversary 1998 UBCD" which included
an XP-like [i. e. universal] USB driver, and so far that has worked with
anything I've tried on it).
>
> The ONLY disadvantage to Lite is that since it uses the 95 shell
> sometimes a program which "runs on 98" will /not/ run on 98 Lite
> because of some stupid hook into the shell driver. Sigh.

Sometimes it's only the install routine. Usually the installer gives you a
crash window saying which routine it couldn't find (often something like,
IIRR, "calloutaddress in explorer.exe"). I've had success with these by one
of 3 (on a 98 system that's been "lite"d) - 1: do a temporary shell swap
using 98lite, run the install, swap back; 2: same thing manually (rename the
two files - which 98lite keeps there, just renames them from .dll and .exe
to .w98) (I think you have to boot in DOS to do this), run the installer,
rename them back; 3: using a hex. editor, hack the installer file so that
where it says "explorer.exe" [near the call to the routine that doesn't
exist], change it to "explorer.w98, then install.

The _only_ thing I _notice_ that I miss by normally using the '95 shell is
that, when doing a copy or move of more than one file, the progress bar
starts again for each file, whereas in the '98 shell it does it for the lot.
(Though I don't know if, when it shows 50%, it's done half the data or just
half the number of files.) But for the greatly increased speed, and what
seems to be increased robustness, I'm willing to live with that little
thing!
>
> I have found over the years that there has been VERY little of
> anything /really/ new and worthwhile released (I am not a gamer
> who needs a graphics card with 512MB of memory, of course, nor

Ditto

> am I a myspace or UTube addict) and that programs written prior

Ditto

> to 2000 are the ones I use most and very happily. There ARE
> exceptions, but a good program should run on ANY 32bit platform.

Agreed. Or, ones that are written _as if_ running on the old OS and
hardware - usually this means keeping the size down; IrfanView goes from
strength to strength, and I've recently been quite taken with the Roadkil
(yes, one L) utilities. Mind you, I still want to know how whoever wrote
"flamer.com" - a DOS prog. that just simulates a fire on screen, and has run
on everything I've ever run it on - managed to get it into 453 bytes!

> Also, I firmly believe that excepting MAJOR technological
> developments, if a program does not have all necessary features
> by ver. 4 or so, the authors are either greedy jerks withholding
> features on purpose or just stupid. Then there is the bloat

Hmm. An interesting hypothesis/proposition/whatever; I see what you mean,
though the version numbers vary a bit depending on what prompted the author
to declare a major number change (I have some v6 and v7 things I've stopped
at).

> thing - which FEW are immune to. It's astouhnding how programs
> which ran just fine when they were 1.5 MB are now 25 MB or more.

And now crawl (even to open).
[]
> [The reason I got the virus in the email is that I turned off
> on-line scanning after having it on for a while and realizing
> that due to my "safe computing" habits it was just a waste of
> resources (my numerous fans may recall we are talking about a
> 166 with 64 (now 96) MB of RAM).]

The email/news/etc. software I use keeps attachments safe (it even limits
HTML rendering), so that no attachment is dangerous unless saved (and even
then not unless run, though you have to be careful with some that it isn't
obvious are executable - pictures [but IrfanView doesn't use the vulnerable
renderer], Word and other Office documents, etc.), so I don't think I've
ever had email scanning turned on. I think there are other softwares as safe
in this respect as Turnpike, too.
>
> Anyway, one virus or no virus, I think it /is/ reasonable to
> have an A-V program and run it /once in a while/. Now that F-

With you there. You need broadband these days though: both AVG and McAfee's
daily downloads are BIG (McAfee's usually about 30-50 Meg these days!).
[]
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J. P. Gilliver | Tel. +44 1634 203298