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Old 11-25-2008, 08:53 AM   #1
Per-Olof Olsson
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Robocopy XP026 and permission problems

Hi

I have been around the net looking for an aswer to this problem, but with no
luck...
Im trying to copy data from server1 over a 10MBit WAN connection to server2
wich is the backupserver.

I want to copy all project data with all permissions and dates from server1
to server2. Both servers running server 2003 (R1)

I have been trying this out with robocopy version XP026.
I have set up a temp directory on both servers for trying this out.

On server1 there is some two permisions set. on is administrators and the
other one is a group in AD that is set on E: drive itself and therefor is
automatically set on the root foolder and all underlying folders as well.

When im doing this with the initial run it copies all files, but it doesnt
retain the two permissions, instead it sets the permissions that i
automatically created on server2 when setting that root folder up. The folder
on the destination server2 is on D:

If i add another person on server1 it will in the second run copy the
permission correctly to server2, if i erase it, it will also erase it
correctly on server2.
But i cant get it to copy the permissions that is set up from start, why is
this???

If I do the same procedure with robocopy XP010 it DOES work, it copies the
right permissions with no problems, BUT i cant get that version to correctly
copy time stamps on folder! It looks like this is a problem that i fixed in
version xp026 with the /DCOPY:T switch that doesnt exist in version xp010....

Anyone out there that can help me with this? I would be most grateful!

Best Regards
Perra


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Old 11-26-2008, 04:11 AM   #2
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RE: Robocopy XP026 and permission problems

Hi

I have found one cause that is a problem in xp026, IF the folder i am
copying from, is a folder that is set to "Allow inheritable permissions from
the...." in the advanced security tab, then it wont take the permissions
correctly over to the new backupserver. But unchecking this makes it work....
but this seems odd to me, is this a demand that it will work only with that
set??!

//Perra
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"Per-Olof Olsson" wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have been around the net looking for an aswer to this problem, but with no
> luck...
> Im trying to copy data from server1 over a 10MBit WAN connection to server2
> wich is the backupserver.
>
> I want to copy all project data with all permissions and dates from server1
> to server2. Both servers running server 2003 (R1)
>
> I have been trying this out with robocopy version XP026.
> I have set up a temp directory on both servers for trying this out.
>
> On server1 there is some two permisions set. on is administrators and the
> other one is a group in AD that is set on E: drive itself and therefor is
> automatically set on the root foolder and all underlying folders as well.
>
> When im doing this with the initial run it copies all files, but it doesnt
> retain the two permissions, instead it sets the permissions that i
> automatically created on server2 when setting that root folder up. The folder
> on the destination server2 is on D:
>
> If i add another person on server1 it will in the second run copy the
> permission correctly to server2, if i erase it, it will also erase it
> correctly on server2.
> But i cant get it to copy the permissions that is set up from start, why is
> this???
>
> If I do the same procedure with robocopy XP010 it DOES work, it copies the
> right permissions with no problems, BUT i cant get that version to correctly
> copy time stamps on folder! It looks like this is a problem that i fixed in
> version xp026 with the /DCOPY:T switch that doesnt exist in version xp010....
>
> Anyone out there that can help me with this? I would be most grateful!
>
> Best Regards
> Perra
>
>
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> IT - Manager

 
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:24 AM   #3
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RE: Robocopy XP026 and permission problems

Dear Perra,

Thank you for your post.

If I understand properly, you find that the ACL of the file cannot be
retained when you use the robocopy version XP026 to copy the file.

I did some research and found that it may be a known issue that the robocoy
XP026 and later version cannot copy the ACLs with inheritance. I will
report this issue to our product group and let you know, if I get any
update.

As a workaround, you may consider clearing the check box "Allow inheritable
permission from the parent to propagate to this object and all child
objects. Include these with entries explicitly defined here." for the root
folder before copying the data. Here is the detailed steps:

1. Right-click the root folder where the data is stored, select Properties.
2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced.
3. Clear the check box "Allow inheritable permission from the parent to
propagate to this object and all child objects. Include these with entries
explicitly defined here.", and then click Copy to copy the permission
entries that were previously applied.
4. After that, copy the folder and all the data by using the utility
robocopy and check if the permission is retained.

Hope it helps.

Sincerely,
Joson Zhou
Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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Old 11-26-2008, 06:51 AM   #4
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RE: Robocopy XP026 and permission problems

Hi,

Yes this does help, and then i know that xp026 isnt supposed to work with
inheritable permissions, so i guess that concludes this case. But if u get
any update please let me know.

Thanks

//Perra
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""Joson Zhou (MSFT)"" wrote:

> Dear Perra,
>
> Thank you for your post.
>
> If I understand properly, you find that the ACL of the file cannot be
> retained when you use the robocopy version XP026 to copy the file.
>
> I did some research and found that it may be a known issue that the robocoy
> XP026 and later version cannot copy the ACLs with inheritance. I will
> report this issue to our product group and let you know, if I get any
> update.
>
> As a workaround, you may consider clearing the check box "Allow inheritable
> permission from the parent to propagate to this object and all child
> objects. Include these with entries explicitly defined here." for the root
> folder before copying the data. Here is the detailed steps:
>
> 1. Right-click the root folder where the data is stored, select Properties.
> 2. Click the Security tab, click Advanced.
> 3. Clear the check box "Allow inheritable permission from the parent to
> propagate to this object and all child objects. Include these with entries
> explicitly defined here.", and then click Copy to copy the permission
> entries that were previously applied.
> 4. After that, copy the folder and all the data by using the utility
> robocopy and check if the permission is retained.
>
> Hope it helps.
>
> Sincerely,
> Joson Zhou
> Microsoft Online Support
> Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> ================================================== ===
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>

 
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Old 11-27-2008, 02:19 AM   #5
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RE: Robocopy XP026 and permission problems

Hi Perra,

Sure, I will let you know if I get any update regarding this issue.

Have a great day.

Sincerely,
Joson Zhou
Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

 
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